Well done on getting the BBC to apologise. What a god-awful paper the Daily Mail is. Charles Moore is a right-winger who hates Muslims.

Good piece here about this row:

http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2009/05/mail-heaven-attacking-muslims-and-bbc.html

Here is a typically bigoted quote from an article Charles Moore wrote in the Spectator some years back:

“Britain is basically English-speaking and Christian and white, and if one starts to think that it might become Urdu-speaking and Muslim and brown, one gets frightened and angry. Next door to me lives a large family of Muslims from the Indian sub-continent. We are friendly enough to one another and they have done us various small acts of kindness. During the Gulf war, however, I heard their morning prayers coming through the wall, and I felt a little uneasy. If such people had outnumbered whites in our square, I should have felt alarmed. Such feelings are not only natural, surely - they are right. You ought to have a sense of your identity, and part of that sense derives from your nation and your race.”

It should also not be forgotten that Charles Moore is the Chairman of Policy Exchange, the nasty neo-conservative think-tank that revels in baiting Muslims.

ENGAGE wrote about a while back about how Policy Exchange had to withdraw a shoddy report they issued about Mosques and Muslim bookshops.

http://www.iengage.org.uk/component/content/article/1-news/295-policy-exchange-removes-report-from-website-and-forced-to-apologise-for-shoddy-research-

Well done to the MCB for responding with tact & decorum, leaving the sensationalist histrionics to those who bait minorities & hold opposing viewpoints.
The British tradition with regard to Freedom of Speech (FOS) is pragmatic & not absolutist & puerile, unlike the secular fundamentalism seen so often on the Contintent. As any adult familiar with the debate should be aware, there is no such thing as absolute FOS e.g. in law one is not free to shout "Fire" in a crowded theatre. Slander is one of those restrictions due to reasons of natural justice.

Hey, give credit where it's due.... if Richard 'Avigdor Lieberman' Moore is MCB's enemy you must be pushing the right buttons. Keep it going.

It's no secret I am not a big fan of the MCB, but credit where credit's due, they've done well to pursue this.

I now hope it encourages the MCB leadership to use their teeth more often instead of their tongues when faced with criticism for the so-called great and good.

The great only seem great when they keep you on your knees. Are we about to see the MCB stand up?

Yvonne Ridley

So the truth hurts?

Read this:

Dr Daud Abdullah, deputy director-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, is facing calls for his resignation, after it emerged that he is one of 90 Muslim leaders from around the world who have signed a public declaration in support of Hamas and military action.

Abdullah, who led the MCB's boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day, was a member of the Mosques and Imams National Advisory Board, the body endorsed by the government that trains imams and was set up to curtail the activities of extremist clerics. In January, he briefed the home secretary, Jacqui Smith, and communities secretary Hazel Blears on the situation in Gaza and its likely impact on social cohesion in the UK.

There were calls last night for the government and the MCB to condemn Abdullah's actions. "The British government should stop funding organisations such as the MCB and supporting events such as Islam Expo, which hosts scholars from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan who hold extremist views," said Irfan Al Alawi, international director of the Centre for Islamic Pluralism.

"If the MCB is serious about tackling extremism, it should immediately expel extremists such as Daud Abdullah from its own ranks," said Ed Husain, co-director of the Quilliam Foundation, a counter-extremism thinktank. "The man is a fanatic."

Abdullah's name appears as a signatory to a declaration in Istanbul last month that describes Israel's recent military campaign as "the manifest victory which Allah has granted us in the land of Gaza". It opposes the "so-called Arab peace initiative" and the Palestinian Authority and issues a series of obligations to the "Islamic Nation", calling on it to "carry on with the jihad and resistance against the occupier until the liberation of all Palestine".

Obligation six declares that Muslims must seek to open the crossings in Palestine so that "money, clothing, food, medicine, weapons and other essentials" can enter Gaza and Palestinians "are able to live and perform the jihad in the way of Allah Almighty".

It warns: "The closure of the crossings, or the prevention of the entry of weapons through them, should be regarded as high treason in the Islamic Nation, and clear support for the Zionist enemy."

The most contentious obligation instructs Muslims to attack foreign navies. In January, Gordon Brown offered Royal Navy resources to help monitor events in Gaza and to stop weapons being smuggled into the territory.

No one has libelled the MCB. The pro Muslim BBC has just handed it £30,000 of licence payers' money tax free instead of telling the MCB See you in court. It was even done behind Mr Moore's back, the way Muslims often kill
other Muslims and foreigners.


The litigious Abdullah threatened Hazel Blears with a demand for £75,000 (he likes big sums) but took it no further when ignored. Ignoring such firebrands is the best way to treat them.

So the MCB is full of tact and decorum?
Really?

Mr Moore is right: the UK is English-speaking and Christian and white, just as Saudi Arabia is Arab speaking, Muslim and brown.

Muslims here deny the truth that any publicly practising any other faith than Islam is banned in Saudi Arabia. Perhaps that is why Muslims here are happy to follow the Koran and they all believe that Islam should replace not only all othe religions everywhere, but also atheism as well - upon penalty of death.

Sura 5:51 "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends and protectors. They are friends and protectors of one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship and supports them shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrongdoers"

Sura 9:5 "When the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters where ever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is forgiving, merciful."

Sura 9:14 " Fight them! Allah will chastise them at your hands, and will lay them low and give you victory over them and He will heal the breasts of folk who are believers."

Sura 9:111 "Allah has purchased from the faithful their lives and worldly goods, in return has promised them Paradise, they will fight for the cause of Allah , they will kill and be killed."

2:193- Fight them on until there is no more tumult and religion becomes that of Allah

Islam - like all religions - was invented by man. Regarding Islam, by just one man 1400 years ago. Time for a new religion, or better still, none at all.

"My wife had an Asian lady in the next bed to her at hospital. She took it quite well. You see we are cosmopolitain in that way."