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Friday, 12 March 2010 14:19

 Philip Hollobone (pictured), the Tory MP who last month equated the wearing of niqab and burqa by Muslim women to ‘the religious equivalent of going around with a paper bag over your head’, took the opportunity during yesterday’s Commons’ debate on International Women’s Day to repeat his claims that a ban on the burqa and niqab should be considered.

According to Hansard, Hollobone interjected saying:

‘On this occasion of international women's day, I want to raise the difficult subject of Islamic full-face veils-specifically, the niqab and the burqa. I am sure we can all agree with the Leader of the House's remarks-we all want to empower women in being equal. In my view and that of my constituents, the niqab and the burqa are oppressive dress codes that are regressive as regards the advancement of women in our society. I want to make it clear that I am talking about the niqab and the burqa, not the hijab, the khimar or the chador.

‘I have been concerned for some time about the niqab and the burqa, but it was not until I took my children to the play area in my local park recently and saw a woman wearing a full burqa that it came home to me how inappropriate and, frankly, offensive it is for people to wear that apparel in the 21st century and especially in Britain. In my view and that of my constituents, the burqa is not an acceptable form of dress and banning it should be seriously considered.'

‘As I was sitting on the bench in the playground watching my children play on the slides, I thought to myself, "Here I am, in the middle of Kettering in the middle of England-a country that has been involved for centuries with spreading freedom and democracy throughout the world-and here's a woman who, through her dress, is effectively saying that she does not want to have any normal human dialogue or interaction with anyone else. By covering her entire face, she is effectively saying that our society is so objectionable, even in the friendly, happy environment of a children's playground, that we are not even allowed to cast a glance on her." I find that offensive and I think it is time that the country did something about it.

‘We will never have a country in which we can all rub along together and in which people of different backgrounds, different ethnicities and different religions all get along nicely if one section of our society refuses even to be looked on by anyone else. As I thought more about it, it struck me that the issue is not the clothes that someone wears but the fact that the face is covered. Lots of people wear what others might feel is inappropriate clothing. That is, of course, everyone's choice. The issue with the niqab and the burqa, however, is not that they are just another piece of clothing but that they involve covering the face either in its entirety or with just the eyes showing.

‘The simple truth is that when a woman wears the burqa, she is unable to engage in normal, everyday visual interaction with everyone else. That is indeed the point of it. It is deliberately designed to prevent others from gazing on that person's face. The problem with that is that it goes against the British way of life. Part of the joy of living in our country is that we pass people every day in the street, exchange a friendly greeting, wave, smile and say hello. Whether we recognise someone as a person we know or whether we are talking to someone for the first time, we can all see who the other person is and we interact both verbally and through those little visual facial signals that are all part of interacting with each other as human beings.

‘If we all went round wearing burqas, our country would be a sad place indeed. Indeed, if we were all to be wearing burqas in this Chamber, Mr. Deputy Speaker, how would you know who to call? I also feel very sorry for women who wear the burqa, as it cannot be very nice to go around all day with only a limited view of the outside world. Of course, many of these women are forced to wear the burqa by their husband or their family. The resulting lack of interaction with everyone else means that many are unable to speak or learn English and so will never have any chance of becoming integrated into the British way of life.

‘The other issue with the burqa is security. Of course, that problem arises with some other forms of face covering and I do not see why those wearing the burqa should be treated any differently. Bikers wear crash helmets for their own safety, but they are required to take them off in banks and shops. If one were to travel on the tube wearing a balaclava, a police officer would ask one to take it off.

‘Many of my constituents have contacted me to say that when they visit Muslim countries they respect the dress codes in those countries and wear appropriate headgear. The phrase that has been given to me time and again is, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do." This is Britain; we are not a Muslim country. Covering one's face in public is strange, and to many people it is intimidating and offensive. I seriously think that a ban on wearing the niqab or the burka in public should be considered.’


And speaking to the Daily Express, what a surprise, Hollobone said:

“This is not an anti- Muslim or anti-religious thing, and it’s not about veils which cover only the head or neck.

“It’s about covering your face in public, which is something we normally associate with people attending controversial trials or motorcyclists or burglars.

“It is not a religious requirement and it is banned in some Muslim countries such as Turkey and Tunisia. Yet it is an increasingly common sight in Britain and it is making us feel like strangers in our own land."


Hollobone’s arrogance is to be marveled at. Does he presume to know what a Muslim woman who wears the niqab or burqa is thinking? Did he speak to the Muslim woman he encountered in the playground and did she tell him in no uncertain terms that she wore it to deter ‘any normal human dialogue or interaction with anyone else’?

The intimation that Muslim women who cover are somehow uniquely offensive, (he said, ‘Lots of people wear what others might feel is inappropriate clothing. That is, of course, everyone's choice. The issue with the niqab and the burqa, however, is not that they are just another piece of clothing but that they involve covering the face either in its entirety or with just the eyes showing’), is to denigrate the religious significance they attach to the act of covering. In overlooking this Hollobone widely detracts from his lofty ‘we all want to empower women in being equal’ ideal and betrays a deep rooted prejudice.

Hollobone might well be surprised to learn that ‘empowered’ Muslim women often choose of their own volition to adopt the niqab and burqa. And while they applaud the ideals of empowering women and gender equality, what they patently don’t need or want are middle aged, male politicians telling them how an empowered British Muslim woman should dress and what she should think.
 

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Shwan   |2010-03-16 04:40:07
What i always find interesting, is this comment that comes up from people who wish to ban the niqab, that woman cant be looked on, they complain that they cant see their faces etc. What i find fascinating is that it is nearly always male men that make this complaint. Why do middle aged men constantly want to look at woman, even when they expressly wish they do not want to be leered at.

What i find most amusing is that the most common complaint they make is that it is offensive. Well i have news for you, tough its a democracy with freedom of expression. These are the same people that complain that muslims over sensitive to criticisim. You cant have it both ways.

And thirdly, lets assume they are right and they reject the way of life here. So what? they have the right to as citizens of this country. When a communiust rejects capitlism, only an idiot shouts go back to where you come from, when Punk and Goths reject mainstream life, only an idiot sees them as threat. When Anarchist demand a change of the political system to create a fairer way of life, only an idiot demands penalties.
See where im going? lol
Carl   |2010-03-24 22:48:49
It is about time that a politician had the guts to stand up and say this. Britain is a Christian country. Anyone moving to the UK from a non-christian background should embrace Britains culture and not bring their own to this extent. I find it offensive and rude for someone to cover up their face.
I would like to see if the muslim community are going to celebrate St Georges Day and join in?
kafur   |2010-04-06 20:13:41
These masks frightened my children when they saw one in the park.
They are ridiculous, not part of any religious observance, and need to be banned.
They are offensive.....and I am not a male, I am a female.
Shaz  - Shaz   |2010-07-05 08:36:12
Britain would be a very BORING country if everyone looked the same, dressed the same, had the same views, opionions, and thoughts. thats what makes Britain...well Britain! the fact that their are people who are truly UNQUIE and able to give insights and explore other people ways of life.
I thought BRITAIN was a fair, equal and considerate country where one will not look at ones personal traits before making freindships, bonds etc.. what is this world coming to when people are being forced to these "society standards". Its a free country and if Tory wants to go look at womens faces, bodies they can go to a strip club...look at your wife mate dont leer at others. You need to put a paper bag ove your head!!! I am free to express my self and its gonna take alot more then this to make me take of my hijab for the likes of YOU. Women are not objects.
Hasinah   |2010-07-05 08:41:26
To MR Tony MP

Just to let you know I am able to engage in normal life - I am very intelligent, have a degree and am training to be in a succesful profession. I have a great group og freinds,nice family and a gorgoeus husband! and most of all I didnt have to remove my hijab to get all this...praise be to Allah (SWT)
Zara   |2010-07-05 11:40:12
Has anyone ever taken the time to speak to a Muslim women wearing the niqab? instead of making up these assumptions ie... Oppressed... we have a voice and dont need politicians to make conclusions as to how all women should dress!!! this in fact is an insult to all women! not just MUSLIMS. More women need to help with this campaign or else they will keep getting away with taking away peoples freedom!!
Amanda   |2010-07-05 11:49:39
Muslims are humans after all and shouldnt be treated as outsiders no matter how they dress and as a British I am disgraced as to what is going on in the world today. If children are frightened then what the hell are they being taught at shool (R.E) or teach or talk to your bloody kids instead. Its called the REAL world Kafur!
Katie   |2010-07-05 12:30:20
These MASKS...?.....saw one in the PARK....? Britain is a Christian country...?

I am disgraced....being a British born I feel that we need to be more supportive towards diverse religions and cultures...people are talking as if they are not HUMANS, Muslims have rights to, and should not be disregarded simply because of dress. and a little modesty doesnt hurt anyone as I cant even go to the beach without seeing some topless chav. We could learn a thing or to from these Muslim Women!!!
Miles   |2011-04-20 13:05:27
I don't presume to offer any thoughts on why a woman will wear a full face covering, nor what she feels when doing so. All I can talk about my reaction - I find the covering of a face a total barrier; there's no way that I'm going to talk to someone in such a state unless I have to; the majority of visual communication is gone and it's clear that they don't want to interact with me - so why bother. If a chap is wearing a balaclava I would be very worried; because it's a woman it's not as threatening somehow. When whole groups are doing it - it's clear that the group is rejecting any interaction and that's a bit worrying for the wider community really.
The joy and power of this country is the two way tolerance and learning from each other which has traditionally gone on (sadly alongside racism etc but that reduces over time). To decide to throw up language / cultural barriers within that is self destructive to all parties.
Jon   |2012-01-27 08:49:36
@Amanda, My children are also frightened by these "masks", and it's not surprising - they are frightening. I would not be able to engange in a proper conversation with a women dressed like that. I don't believe they should be allowed to wear it in public (how would you feel if the your kids teacher insisted on wearing a ski-mask in class?)

@Katie, you deny that Britain is essentially a Christian country? (more by cultural heratige than religion). You deny that the niqab is a type of face mask? (despite the fact that it looks like an evil fancy-dress costume?). It seems to me that, in general, you are in denial of the obvious facts.
Jon   |2012-01-27 08:54:25
@Miles, "there's no way that I'm going to talk to someone in such a state unless I have to" ...

I feel much the same way, only after giving the matter a bit more thought now, I've decided that if I'm ever in the position where I have to talk to one of these women I will refuse to speak to her unless she uncovers her face.

I feel very strongly about this, not least of all because I am Jewish and know full-well that Islamist ideology preaches that people like myself should be slaughtered. The niqab represents for me this Islamist ideology. I am usually a very tolerant person, but I have little tolerance for people who want to see me dead.

(Oh, and if anyone wants proof of what the Islamists preach, I am happy to post links)
Jon  - Children   |2012-03-14 19:07:39
The other day I was taking my son to the park, we saw a woman dressed from head to toe in black wearing a niqab. My son said "Daddy she looks very scary..." and huddled next to me.
"Yes", I agreed with him, she does look quite scary.
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